Scherrie Payne and Susaye Greene (last lead singer and last member of the Supremes, respectively) make up the current line-up alongside Joyce Vincent, from the band Tony Orlando and Dawn. In a nostalgic chat, the singers talk a little about their experiences over the years, and also during this time of social isolation.
Symbol of an era, voices that have inspired and still inspire generations, the vocal group The Supremes – known for being the best-selling female vocal group in history – remained active until 1977, when co-founder member Mary Wilson left to pursue a solo career. Altogether, 9 singers were part of the group between 1961-1977.
Eight years after the end of The Supremes, Scherrie Payne – known for being the last lead singer in the group – was hired by Super Star International Records, with the proposal to recreate the renowned girl group. It didn’t take long for that to happen; a few months later, the ladies were together in a new version of the group.
The first members were Scherrie Payne, Jean Terrell and Cindy Birdsong, who left prematurely to start a solo career. Coincidentally, Cindy was replaced by Lynda Laurence who also replaced her at The Supremes in 1972.
Although the group initially consisted of ex-supremes, other singers – not Supremes – also joined in to replace the departing members. The first substitute was Sundray Tucker, Lynda Laurence’s sister. In the 1960s, Sundray was replaced by Cindy Birdsong in the musical group The Ordettes, later to be called Patti LaBelle & The Bluebelles.
Freddi Pool, currently a member of the Three Degrees, and Joyce Vincent, an original member of the group Tony Orlando and Dawn, also joined the group.
In the 2000s, Scherrie Payne and Lynda Laurence were recruited to participate on a tour with Diana Ross – known for the twelve number ones with the group. The “Return To Love” tour marked the end of the 20th century, and also a highlight in the singers’ careers because it was a new line-up for the group, as Scherrie and Lynda joined the group years after Ross left. The group performed in famous Tv shows, such as The Oprah Winfrey Show and The View.
In 2017, Lynda left the group after thirty-one years to explore new branches in the music industry, in her place came Susaye Greene, known for being the last Supreme. From the moment Greene entered, the group was renamed Scherrie and Susaye, Formerly of The Supremes with Joyce Vincent. The fans reacted with love and enthusiasm to Susaye’s addition to the group.
After so many members, gold and platinum records, and tours around the world; the group has remained active for more than 3 decades. These supreme ladies continue to make great music, bring nostalgia, and the power of black music to the hearts of fans in different parts of the world.
First of all, I would like to thank Eric Iversen for allowing this interview to happen, to the three ladies who were kindly willing to be interviewed and also my great friend Weslley Francisco(of Supremes Archive) for their support.
João Carneiro: You are known for your participation in renowned musical groups, collaborations with countless singers, and incomparable compositions. From the beginning of your career, who were your biggest musical influences? Which singers inspired you? Any Brazilian singer?
Scherrie Payne: Scherrie: Well, as a teenager, my idols were: Billie Holliday, jazz singer; and Gloria Lynne, who was also a renowned jazz singer. And all through high school, I loved to listen to their recordings. I would go down to my rec room and put this color three-pole lamp, and I’d put on one of their albums and I would sing every song, I knew the lyrics by heart. I just loved them! In fact, I probably sounded like them, I emulated them so.
And then, as things progressed after high school, I went to Michigan State; and was during that time Motown started to come alive. And, of course, I loved Nat King Cole, he was so smooth, and then, Tony Bennett.
But my all-time favorite singer is Marvin Gaye, I love Marvin Gaye. My favorite album is the “What’s going on?” album. He was before his time.
Susaye Greene: I was influenced by people from everywhere. There were some groups; a lot of Brazilian groups that I listened growing up. But, mainly, I have to say; I was influenced by Johnny Mathis, Tony Bennett, Aretha Franklin, and many singers who were obscure. Jazz singers, in my town, jazz influenced me more than anything. Donny Hathaway was a tremendous impact on me, in technique, in writing, producing; and just hearing music, understanding how people made certain things happen.
Joyce Vincent: I don’t believe so. But, I was crazy about Dionne Warwick. She was definitely my inspiration. I love her!
João Carneiro: Susaye, besides being a great singer and songwriter, you also do paintings, right? One of your most famous paintings is “The Reunion”, with all the Supremes in one painting. How did you discover this talent for painting?
Susaye Greene: Painting was my real me, outside of my voice. I found that I could look at something and reproduce it, like a hand or a fruit; and, then, color! Just brings so much joy, it’s exciting to me.
I think it’s something that I’m very passionate about. It has to do with it being so much of a part of my life. And I still use it to express many, many levels; things I care about, or just calm the eye, inspire the eye, and makes the mind work. It involves a lot of elements
João Carneiro: Scherrie, do you have any plans to bring Jean, Lynda and Mary together for a show celebrating the 50th anniversary of the 70’s Supremes?
Scherrie Payne: Scherrie: Well… That’s sort of a hard question to answer, because I don’t know what’s going on in their lives right now. Mary has been solo for years, and Jean hasn’t really been singing, at all. So, I don’t really see the possibility of it, but miracles happen! And it would take a miracle, I think. But I really don’t see that happening, and it’s a shame.
Maybe if Diana would gives us all a call, and reach out and say: “What we can do for the 50th anniversary?”
It would sound so weird! FIFTY YEARS!! Wow.
But right now, I don’t see that happening.
João Carneiro: Joyce, besides being known as a member of “Tony Orlando and Dawn”, you were supposed to replace Mary Wilson when she left “The Supremes”. With the addition of Susaye Greene to the group in 2017, how does it feel to see that, 40 years later, the long-awaited formation has finally come true?
Joyce Vincent: It’s amazing that something that was gonna get started forty years ago it’s happening now, we’re doing it now. It’s just amazing, I cannot believe it. It just was not the time, you know, forty years ago. I guess it just was not the time. And then it came around, and I’m just thrilled singing with these ladies.
João Carneiro: Did you ever come to Brazil? What do you think of the country?
Scherrie Payne: Oh, it’s been years! I loved it. I just wish I could spoke in Portuguese; all I know is: “Eu te amo.” I think that means “I love you” in Portuguese. Eu te amo! (Laughs)
But we were there, I think; in 1975, I believe. In São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, and we went to a third place, which I can’t recall, at the time.
But it was wonderful! I loved it, I loved it! Everyone was so friendly, we went sightseeing; and the audience was just so wonderful and warm. It was just a wonderful time, wonderful time.
Susaye Greene: I love Brazil. It’s so beautifully lush! It’s sort of those types of places that have a very lush element to it. People are warm and welcoming. The music is fabulous, the dancing is fabulous. I spent a lot of time in São Paulo, Brasília, all throughout Brazil. And it just holds such a warm spot in my heart, because the people are just so passionate! The passion!
I love that, because they are so beautiful, in so many shades. Walking around in Brazil is like looking at a painting. One day, I was standing in the middle of the street, in the afternoon; then, suddenly it just went downpour! (Laughs) And I was told that, that was normal at this time of the year. It was so much water! That, literally; I had on a little nip suit and it was so drenched that it stretched. (Laugh) It was a knee-length skirt, and it stretched all the way down to the ground. Literally. I’ve never seen that much water coming out of the sky. But, mainly, I just had a beautiful time. There was lots of time on the beach, in my yellow puffed up bikini. I had a great time.
I was there with Ray Charles’ group; we spent a lot of time looking for a group. We had met (the group) in Mexico City, called “Luiz Eça y Familia Cegara”, just wonderful group. We had done some show in the same place; we looked for them and became friends.
A lot of Brazilian artists get together still in the street and start jamming at parties. It’s memorable, totally memorable.
Joyce Vincent: I’ve never been to Brazil. I would love to come to Brazil. We had an opportunity at one point, a few years ago, to come to Brazil that fell through. And I was very excited to come, you know, but maybe we’ll still get a chance. The women are supposed to be so beautiful there. And I would really be looking forward for the food! ‘Cause I understand they got some really good food!
João Carneiro: Racism is, unfortunately, still present in society in various situations. We recently had the murder of George Floyd case. Have you ever witnessed situations like this or were you the victim of racial discrimination?
Scherrie Payne: Yes, I was. Of course, back in the Michigan state we experienced some, not as obvious; it was sort of subdued, I remember, sort of hidden. But one episode really sticks out in my mind, actually two.
When my father and I were driving out to Las Vegas from Detroit, he had along with another friend, his best friend Ed Bradley Sir; who’s son, Ed Bradley Jr., went on to co-host the “60 Minutes” show. We drove out to Vegas where my mother and sister already were, Freda was working in one of the hotels in the street. But along the way, we stopped in Chicago, in a dinner, to eat. And we sat there, and we sat there, and we sat there; and the cook was leaning his head and saying something to the waitress. Finally, she came over and said: “Sorry, but we won’t be able to serve you.” So we got up and left.
Driving, I remember, in St. Louis; we went to a drive-in restaurant where the waitress would come up to the car. I think we wanted a hamburgers or something like that, and the waitress went in, and when she came back she said: “I’m sorry, but we can’t give you anything like that. We can give you something that is quick, like tuna sandwich, so we won’t have to cook it…” And my father said: “But we are so hungry…” and she said “Well, you can have something like that; something that we won’t have to cook and only takes a couple of minutes to put together.” So we accepted it, and we went on.
We were looking for a place to stay, and then we saw “Holiday Inn” or “Howard Johnson’s Holiday Inn”, I can’t remember; it said ‘vacancy’ so we pulled in. And Daddy was very tired, and Ed Bradley Sir, because they were doing the driving, and they came back and said that they (the rooms) were all filled up.
But there was a sign that said ‘vacancy’, and then the manager came and said: “We can’t allow black people to stay here.” And he told us about (about) some place in the edgiest town. So we kept driving and we got to the edgiest town, and we saw this motel; we checked there and the guy felt so bad for us, he said: “I can see that you’re tired, we’ll allow you to stay here, but you have to be up in the crack of dawn for none of our other customers will see you here.”
So we did, we got in one room, Ed Bradley Sr. slept on the floor, and daddy in the bed. I think it was a twin bed and Ed slept on the other one, and that was it. And then we drove to New Mexico, we were on Route 66; we went to a restaurant and we weren’t allowed to go on the front. We had to go around to the back and order our food.
And that was it. That experience I have was in the 50’s, ‘cause I was still in high school, I believe.
But, another incident was when I was working at a hotel, the Desert Inn, in a musical called: “Dream Street” and I was one of the stars of the cast. It was on the winter time in December, so it was cold, and I was parking in a huge parking lot, and the performance’s door was into the parking lot. It was very cold; there were no other cars there, maybe two or three, so I parked next to the stage door’s entrance.
And there was a security guard standing there, a white guy, and he said: “You can’t park here.” And I said: “Well Sir, its cold. I’m one of the stars in the musical here “Dream Street” in the main showroom.” And he said: “You still can’t park here.” And I said: “It’s empty, look at all these empty spaces! Hardly any car; two or three cars!” So I kept walking, and all of a sudden, he hollered out: “You come back here, ni***r!” And I just kept walking, and he said it again, I kept walking; went on inside and told the cast members all about it. George Fallon, who is a friend of mine to this day was there, he was in the musical. And later on the show, I had to do this number, solo number onstage, as a dramatic piece. All of a sudden, I just broke down in tears crying, and the audience thought I was just brilliant, being dramatic; but the cast knew why I was crying, and it just hit me all of a sudden. But the next morning, I got up and I went to the President/CEO of the Desert Inn office and I demanded to see him. They let me see him, and I told him what happened, and he said: “Oh, no. We can’t have anything like that here. We’ll make sure he gets fired.” And I said: “Good…”
So, two days later, I found out they hadn’t fire him; they just moved him to another position in the hotel towards the front. So he lied! That was my experience, so I know how it feels. It’s something that you can’t even really describe until you’ve gone through it yourself. But I was very happy when the Desert Inn had to close, and then it got demolished (laughs) I didn’t have to get revenge, God got revenge for me! (Laughs)
Susaye Greene: Yes, I have been a victim. I think both black people and people of color have been victim to some extent of racism. You get conscious in a very young age that you are different, and considered in a different manner. Sometimes people won’t be friendly to you. But one thing that sticks in my mind, is when I was three, my mother, father and I were walking downtown. And I saw sort of a shop, an Ice cream shop, and they had a counter in stools. I pulled away from my mother and ran into the store, which was against the law at that time. I climbed the front chair to seat, and I said: “I want a coke, please.” The cook came out, and got very angry with my mother for not controlling me. He called her name, and said: “No. Get out of here! Go on outta here”
I was just trying to get a Coca-cola, you know?
Being just a little kid I didn’t understand the full ramifications of it but the waitress said to him “She’s just a baby. Go on and give her a little drink” and they did, but then they shooed us out immediately. Then the man broke the glass that I had drunk from. It makes an impression on you. There’s racism everywhere. But I think the thing about now and the inspiration of George Floyd’s death for the world is how it has caught the world a fire in consciousness. People are talking about it in different ways. And there are people who were raised to be racist, many, many of them here in America. But things will change as they change; some things faster than others. It’s kinda like the elephant in the room now, and the cat’s out of the bag. It’s too late to go back and young people particularly will never back down from this now. Because it’s like “Here it is, deal with it.”
People have to mature, because things are coming to our world, it should be obvious, I think. We’re in the midst of a worldwide pandemic. That illustrates that we are all affected, one way or the other, everybody. Someone may know a family member, or themselves have been affected. The world stops, and consequently you have to pay attention to something that’s that big; especially when it’s followed by something else this big. So, all and all, we are on a path to raise our consciousness up. It’s obvious. If it isn’t obvious, then people aren’t paying attention. And we know that happens too. So, we wait, we see, and we do what we’re supposed to do… We do right!
Joyce Vincent: I was, years and years ago. I was in Florida with Tony Orlando (and Dawn), and you know, being with a group that was racially mixed… He was Puerto Rican and we were African-American, we got a lot of negative kinds of things happening; I found that it was mostly in the South (of the USA). So, yes, I ran into a few incidents, but you just kinda let it roll off your back and keep on moving.
João Carneiro: Susaye , in addition to your powerful voice, you are also known for writing songs for successful artists like Michael Jackson and Deniece Williams. Your lastest release “Unconditional Love” is fabulous. How is your writing process?
Susaye Greene: It’s depends in whom I’m writing with, or if I’m writing alone. What the situation is, the way you feel. There are many aspects that are sort of unconscious.
The whole thing about being blessed enough to write songs, is that, you create it all. It’s fun! And you just kinda go with it. It comes to you, it comes through you, and it comes out! And that’s why I believe in rewrite, and I rewrite because, then, you get the chance to refine.
Certain things fit in certain places. That’s a universal kind of law. And the key is knowing when it fits.
That’s my philosophy as a singer, as a musician, as an artist. As a person who loves the world and people’s humanity. Things that fit. Fit. We don’t have to do much than be open to it.
João Carneiro: How do you feel being a source of inspiration for great number of people working in the artistic environment, like drag queens?
Scherrie Payne: Well (laughs) I’m still honored and humbled someone would wanna emulate you, especially the drag queens. This is still an honor that they would want to emulate you, and some do it so well! I’ve even been to a show in Chicago, a number of years ago with my friend, and there was a drag queen by the name of… Scherrie Payne! (Laughs) And I sat right there on front. She came up and sang “I’m Gonna Let My Heart do The Walking”, and she was just astounded when they introduced me. She was just so nervous. But she did an excellent job and she looked great!So it’s just an honor. I just don’t think of me of being a legend or part of it, I’m just me. I’m Scherrie… I’m a child of God, and I just love. That’s what He put us here for, to love. So it’s a blessing
Susaye Greene: (Laughs) Wow, what a lovely question. Because most questions are exceedingly sore; I’ve never heard that quite that way. Everybody is people, so as fabulous, and extraordinary, and over-the-top as drag queens can be, they’re still people; just people inside. We all go through the same thing. It’s nice to see the many styles of life, and it’s exciting! It’s an honor to meet people of the many… what’s the word… styles of life!
Joyce Vincent: Oh my God! Is a good feeling! Because is positive, it’s positivity what they kinda put out there. It could be a lot worse, but it’s really a positive feeling that people still love the music, the groups… It’s just a positive feeling.
João Carneiro: Susaye, a lot of fans follow you on social media. I see that you post some great videos and reflective texts. Have you ever thought about writing a book based on your reflections?
Susaye Greene: Yes! I’m working on that. At the moment, I’m compiling things because; I’ve done a lot of really worldwide popular posters that were inspirational, and photography for them. You know, it’s one of my habits, love photography. These things are from… a lot of them are from my spirit, and from my heart, and some are just playing truths that I’ve learned. Just living to be… you know… cool! (Laughs) And I’ve been here a long time, I’ve experienced a lot! We know what has happened to us, what our experience is.
There are some experiences that uplift you when you’re down; or that makes you see things differently. That, I think everybody needs, particularly in a time like this. Because we need to know that we can have hope. And we don’t give up! There’s no giving up here, we have the chance to do everything.
I feel my mortality quite a lot, though I feel good physically. But I feel, I know what’s happening in the world, and there’s no immortality, except, maybe in the legacy that we leave. And I’m willing to share those things with the world.
João Carneiro: Scherrie, one of the most memorable moments for Supremes fans, was when Florence Ballard was invited to the stage during The Supremes show at the Magic Mountain. How would you describe that moment?
Scherrie Payne: Oh João, that was a magical night. I’ll never forget it. I can even remember what she had on. She had come in town, she was visiting with Mary Wilson, and Mary had invited her to come to the show at the Magic Mountain. I remember when Mary brought her onstage, the audience went wild! Just absolutely went wild!
It was Mary, Cindy Birdsong and myself. It was just a magical evening. Florence looked good. I can’t remember if she actually sang with us, she may have sung along with us, I’m trying to remember; that was so long ago.
But that was a magical night. I think she had on a green floral outfit, pants and a little top. She was just so sweet that night; it was a magical night for her as well. It think it brought back a lot of memories that she cherished until the day that she passed, I believe.
João Carneiro: Your songs are still being played on the radio and streaming platforms. How do you feel, knowing that you have fans in the young generation, that follow you and support the Supremes legacy?
Scherrie Payne: Wow, it really astounds me that the young kids know the Supremes music. Look how long ago that was. Dang… In the sixties! I’m old now! I guess some people might say: “Oh, no. Age is nothing but a number!” But I have to be realistic I’m in the old regeneration now.
Like my cousin asked me: “What happened to all the old relatives?” and I said: “We’re the old relatives now!” But it’s really an honor that these young kids appreciate the music from way back then. And even though I didn’t record on the original hit (line-up) Diana, Florence and Mary, then Cindy; we sung them so, I feel like I’m a part of them. But regardless of whether I sang on the original recordings, whatever; I’m just humbled, it’s humbling. I’m so glad that God blessed me with this position, never imagining that I would, one day, be a part of the number one female group in the world. And, so glad that Mary Wilson saw in me what she thought was needed for the group when Jean decided she wanted to leave. I owe that, a debit in gratitude to Mary Wilson, who was an original of the group; she deserves all the accolades. And I’m just happy, and I feel so blessed. I’m blessed, and honored, and humbled, when a young person mentions my name or wants to know, like you, João; about our past. It really humbles me and I’m grateful. So thank you! Thank you, João, for doing this project and having an interest in keeping the legends going. Thank you so much.
Susaye Greene: That’s just lovely isn’t it? It’s a blessing. We are blessed to wake up every day, and still be here to do this. We are very focused in what we do, we are very delivered. It’s an extraordinary circumstance; performing for a lot of people is a very blessed thing. And you give it what you got. We’re so grateful that people come out, come and see us. And talk to us, and share with us the things they saved through the years. The memories they have. They’re friends, you know. From around the world! A blessing.
Joyce Vincent: Oh well! It’s quite mind-blowing that people are still enjoying our music, and the younger people are getting into it. Music that was recorded forty is still good music! So these younger people probably got it from their grandparents or parents listening to good music, they like good music too. They’re interested in good music, and that’s good music, from back in the day!
(As for Tony Orlando and Dawn) (…) “We still have some fans, and we get younger ones, people that weren’t even born at the time that music was out there. And then they hear it, and it doesn’t matter the age of the music or the artist; they just like good music.
João Carneiro: Scherrie and Susaye, do you intend to add fan-favorites Supremes songs to your performances? Like “Come Into my life”, “We Should Be Close Together” and “You’re What’s Missing in My Life”
Scherrie Payne: Oh, let’s see… “Come Into My Life” and “We Should Be Closer Together” I like both of those songs. I haven’t heard those in years! That’s a good idea, I don’t know. I have to talk about it to Susaye Greene (the last Supreme), and it’s a possibility. And Joyce Vincent (ex-member of Tony Orlando and Dawn) my dear friend since the late 60’s, I was at Invictus Records when I met she and her sister Pam. That’s a possibility! It’s always good to have a little nostalgia and go back.
I was never a fan of “You’re what’s Missing in My Life”. I think it was only because, when we were singing it, it sounded like we were competing against each other, so I don’t know. I have to listen to it again, I might change my mind. Who knows?”
Susaye Greene: I think all songs are a possible maybe!
João Carneiro: Joyce, what tips would you give to the up coming singers?
Joyce Vincent: The only thing that I can say is that you have to follow your heart. What you feel that you’ve been put here to do, if that’s singing, writing, dancing or whatever it is; if it’s in your heart, you got to follow it.
I can remember coming up, I won’t mention who said some of these things, but some people said: “Why you got to sing? You can’t make any money singing!” But there was something in my heart, and I didn’t necessarily look at it like making money. I just looked at it like something that I loved to do, and I’m gonna keep doing it. I don’t know if I’m gonna be good at it or not, but I’ll keep doing it.
You gotta follow your heart, because if you don’t, honey… you’ll be only a miserable soul.
João Carneiro: During this period of social isolation, what have you done to occupy the mind? Do you have any advice to share with us?
Scherrie Payne: Wow. Well, somebody asked me if I have been working on my writings, because I write screenplays, stage plays and things like that. I’ve written twenty one screenplays and five stage plays. So they assume that I’ve just been prestigiously writing, but I haven’t. I haven’t written one thing. I’ve written down ideas or, maybe, a dialogue line here and there. I’ve just been cleaning; I’ve been trying to organize, because my room was a total mess. I have so much stuff, so much memorabilia, and it’s just everywhere. I need to get more organized, and I’m using this time trying to organize.
It’s been hard, some days I have gotten really depressed. I’m a creative person; I have to be creative (because) I do suffer from depression. Sometimes I watch something on TV that would inspire me, or it might be a spiritual literature that I’d read, then, I pray. I talk to God all the time, especially when I’m in my car; I’m always talking to God. And that’s what’s important, to have a special relationship with God, because we’re here to serve Him, to love Him and to love others. That’s what is keeping me going; my prayers, the prayers of others, I know people are praying for me.
Sometimes I need to make myself happy. I’ve gone through a lot of old cassettes that I found, at least two hundred cassettes, maybe more. There’s a lot of music on it, from years ago; I had forgotten all about it. Now I’m going through all my cassettes, and throwing away things I didn’t had knowledge of. Songs from musicals, songs I found that I had forgotten all about: “Wow! This is a great song. What a great pushing.” Then I get depressed because I didn’t act on it, but I found some really great music on these cassettes, and I still have a lot to go through. I think God dimmed this time for me to do that, to get organized. “Put yourself together, Scherrie. I gave you all this stuff, I gave you screenplays, stage plays, and I gave you music and you haven’t done anything with it. Now you get busy! And get some of these songs done!“
I’d like to do a CD of the songs I’ve written, and some of them have never been recorded or published. So that’s what I’ve been doing, trying to get my life together.
Susaye Greene: Well… You take an eight-year old and a six-year old and you read; you run; you swim; and you laugh a lot; and you make sandwiches, and juice, and then they’re in school! Aw!
So, aside from that, when I’m not doing my other little pursuits that I need to do; I wish the days could be a little bit longer, I wish I had a little more time to do something else. I’m always working on projects, always working on the future.
I’m animating, I’m drawing right now, as well. I am in the beginning of an enormous project; a worldwide project that I think is an inspiration in itself, and I’m so glad to be involved with. I have worked in music, I’ve recorded, and I can do that at home, thankfully. I’m doing vocals for things of my own that I’m working on. I’m always writing something, at the moment. I’m very productive at the moment. When I’m writing I put things on my phone or on my Mp3, or whatever. There’s just so much, there’s food, and there’s garden, and… life! You know? Life. Live life! (Laughs)
Joyce Vincent: You know, we’ve been working on some new music, and we’re taking this pandemic in lockdown time to do a lot of things that you just kind put to the side, or putting off and doing it later, and now is later. So, we are working on a lot of music, new music! I’m really excited!
João Carneiro: Finishing the interview, what message would you like to leave to the fans?
Scherrie Payne: I think my final message for all of you would be, as Diana would say: “Reach out and touch!”
Be loving, be kind. We need each other. We’re all in this together, especially during this time. Be true to yourself. Pursue your dreams; God gave you the dreams, so, pursue them, don’t let them lie doormat. And be good to yourself! Of course there gonna be people who will criticize you, not everybody is gonna be “lovey-dovey” to you; but you know who you are, God made you.
Just dream, dream big, dream high! Just don’t give up, keep pursuing your dreams. Be happy, be loving. We’re only here for a short while, so make use of all that time. Remember that you’re God’s child. Give Him the honor and glory; because without Him you can’t do nothing, you can’t be nothing, you can’t attain nothing; and if you do it, without His help, it’s not gonna last. But I’m telling you, once He opens the door, nobody can close it!
So, don’t be afraid to dream. Don’t be afraid to reach high, reach for the sky.”
Susaye Greene: I think that people really miss being out, all of us. It has affected… The situation that we’re in has affected all of us. And we have to, kind of bear down. Be patient. There’s the opportunity to be active still, mentally, always, now because of technology. Thank goodness we have that, otherwise, we’d be truly isolated. But we’ve got to come back, maybe in a near way. All of us can take a moment, if you can and if you will; just figure out what you really want out of life right now. You don’t have to make the impossible happen, or have to change everything. Do what you do, do what you love to do. And I suggest you to do it now! Do it now. Why not?
You can see, we can see the numbers, 12 million have Covid! So, you know. We know the places that are hot-spot around the world; we know that Brazil has problems, and we know that America… We know the places I the world that are hot-spot. I’m saying, be sense. Try to live, try to live and be stubborn to the ideals. Not just the ideals, be stubborn to your ideals, but don’t be stubborn to new things and opportunities, especially if they may save your life.
Just off-chat, I wanna be here. There’s just so much that I’d like to do. And I’d love for you, you particularly, who are so young and vibrant, and have the anger; and have the push to do things and say things. Say them, and do them. But look to making a world for all of us, that’s a good, safe and right place. Look to the good! And let’s try; just try to move the world now. The world has the chance to change, now. Be somebody who will fight to do that.
Because we each have a voice! We each have a heart! And a soul, and a spirit! And that connects the man to with time to reach a higher consciousness.
That’s all I have to say. Stay safe, and be well. I love you, I love you. I love you unconditionally, for loving me and supporting me. Thank you.
Joyce Vincent: Hang in there. Do what you dig; do what you like; do what you love. And don’t let anybody bring you down, because you gonna have those people that will try to bring you down, or try to stir with someone else. And that’s not good, because you end up kicking yourself in long run thinking “Why I didn’t do it the way that I felt that I should do it?”
That’s what you gotta do! Because, you know, you get to be my age and you start feeling bad that you didn’t do something that you felt you had to do… And then you keep kicking yourself in the butt. So, you just got to follow your heart!
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